viteu
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Post by viteu on Jan 7, 2019 19:40:55 GMT -6
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 7, 2019 19:58:21 GMT -6
Esteemed FreeDems, I would like to propose that the entire current Programme be replaced by the following - I know certain other members have indicated they take issue with particular facets of this programme, so I would encourage those members to propose those as Amendments to this New Draft Programme, we vote on those amendments, then we vote on the revised document.
=== A. CULTURE
A1. The Free Democrats support Talossan culture built by its citizens, not the Government. The Ministry of Culture should work with non-governmental organisations and provincial governments to build Talossa's "civil society" - ways to be Talossan outside of the Government, including language, research, sports and leisure. We will prevent government appropriation of private projects through nationalisation, but where possible provide government support for such projects which need it. A2. 'N naziun sanc glheþ, c'è 'n naziun sanc coraziun. We believe the state should make, and promote, the widest possible use of the Talossan language.
B. GOVERNMENT
B1. The Free Democrats support a New Organic Law for Talossa, preferably including the following: a) Reduction of Cosa seat numbers to 20. b) Mandatory Cosâ lists (no seats to be distributed at whim by party leaders). c) Support a more accessible judicial system for simple disputes. d) Reform of registration fees for political participation, with the introduction of $5 for Senate candidates. e) Slim down government: cut down on the number of departments, bureaus, and even Ministries. Shift as many functions as possible to the non-political Civil Service and Chancery. f) Reduction of the King's influence on the democratic process. The Seneschál to be appointed by the King on the advice of a majority of Cosa seats. g) Removal of Wisconsin law from El Lexhátx, and replacement of relevant sections with indigenous Talossan equivalents drafted with the input of top members of the Bar.
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Post by Dien on Jan 7, 2019 20:36:38 GMT -6
Should I propose amendments to the proposed programme in this thread?
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 8, 2019 9:12:01 GMT -6
AMENDMENT 1: B.H: The conversion of the hereditary monarchy to that of a seven-year monarchial term of office with no consecutive terms allowed and with a prohibition of children of a monarch serving as same
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Post by Dien on Jan 8, 2019 10:06:47 GMT -6
(The number scheme below follows GV's amendment as proposal 1.)
Proposed Amendment 2: Amending B1.A to remove "to 20." B1.A would therefore only read: "Reduction of Cosa seat numbers."
Proposed Amendment 3: Removing B1.B and renumbering subsequent points.
Proposed Amendment 4: Removing the language of B1.F that states "Reduction of the King's influence on the democratic process." B1.F would therefore only read: "The Seneschál to be appointed by the King on the advice of a majority of Cosa seats."
Proposed Amendment 5: To add a section A3. to read "We support common sense legislation to ensure the rights of individuals to enjoy whatever cultural aspect of Talossa they wish are not hindered by laws limiting the free exercise of expression."
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Post by Eiric S Bornatfiglheu on Jan 8, 2019 20:06:39 GMT -6
I would like to suggest the concept of the "nuclear throne."
Amendment 6: Create B1h- Supporting a system where the king of Talossa sits the throne securely. The throne itself is unstable and easily abolished.
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Post by Eiric S Bornatfiglheu on Jan 14, 2019 18:44:11 GMT -6
Amendment 7: Create B1f2- Abolish the hereditary monarchy in favour of a lifetime elected position.
Amendment 8: Create B1h2- In the case that the monarchy is abolished as part of the nuclear throne, require an interregnum of at least five years during which the various monarchial powers devolve to other offices (Tuisac'h, Mencei, Seneschal, High Steward).
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 14, 2019 22:27:53 GMT -6
Amendment 7: Create B1f2- Abolish the hereditary monarchy in favour of a lifetime elected position. Amendment 8: Create B1h2- In the case that the monarchy is abolished as part of the nuclear throne, require an interregnum of at least five years during which the various monarchial powers devolve to other offices (Tuisac'h, Mencei, Seneschal, High Steward). I am not married to my amendment proposal and am open to all ideas on how to kill off the hereditary monarchy once and for all.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 18, 2019 14:03:18 GMT -6
Is it time to bring the various amendments to a vote?
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 18, 2019 16:37:01 GMT -6
AMENDMENT 1: B.H: The conversion of the hereditary monarchy to that of a seven-year monarchial term of office with no consecutive terms allowed and with a prohibition of children of a monarch serving as same WITHDRAWN by GV 18 i 2019
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 18, 2019 16:40:33 GMT -6
New Amendment re the monarchy (EDITED):
"The Free Democrats support an elected Head of State with fixed non-consecutive terms and an abolition of the Talossan monarchy."
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 21, 2019 14:45:10 GMT -6
Here's another one: "Support for the Telecomuna project of a State-owned and administered national discussion forum. Our current over-reliance on privately owned and administered Wittenberg puts too much power in the hands of that site's unaccountable owners/administrators."
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 22, 2019 12:41:29 GMT -6
Here's another one: "Support for the Telecomuna project of a State-owned and administered national discussion forum. Our current over-reliance on privately owned and administered Wittenberg puts too much power in the hands of that site's unaccountable owners/administrators." 100% support. This alone is why Talossa needs a legal person to which we can attach legally-binding by-laws. Of course, that particular issue is thorny as all-get out and more complicated than we can possibly imagine and could change Talossan society in ways we cannot imagine.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 23, 2019 14:10:22 GMT -6
ALRIGHTY since V seems otherwise engaged, here's my list of all the Amendments to my proposed new Platform thus far proposed: I propose putting all of the above to an up-or-down vote within 24 hours?
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 23, 2019 14:16:15 GMT -6
Yes. Let's vote on all nine of these.
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