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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 5, 2018 18:50:04 GMT -6
Esteemed Free Democrats!
Here is the current Platform of our Party, copy/pasted from the Wiki, with the parts accomplished removed:
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 5, 2018 18:56:58 GMT -6
Esteemed Party President, I offer the following three motions, all of which are proposed on the basis of "if we're not going to do it, delete it":
1. That Party Platform 2 ("Privacy law for information used on private and public sites relating to Talossa") be deleted.
In fact, I have no real problem with this clause, and I wouldn't mind seeing such a law enacted. But I am not motivated to write such a bill; and no-one else in our Ziu caucus seems to have, either. If we're not going to actually do it, we should delete it. If no-one actually volunteers to write a Privacy Bill (and I'm certainly not) we should trash it.
2. That Party Platform 4 ("Anti-discrimination law to prevent discrimination against individuals on the basis of whether they voted publicly or privately") be deleted.
I am very against public-ballot voting in principle, because it turns elections into "loyalty parades", where inactive Talossans turn up out of the blue to make a public post affirming their loyalty to whichever gang they're in, and go away. In pre-Reunision era, it was a major weapon in keeping a permanent RUMP majority. It is no coincidence that the RUMP lost their permanent majority once the secret ballot came in. I would personally like to see a compulsory secret ballot, but that's just me.
Given that, this suggestion for a law "preventing discrimination" against public-ballot voters - not that any such discrimination has ever happened - is ridiculous, I don't like being bound by it, and I want it deleted.
3. That Party Platform 5 ("Support a more accessible judicial system for simple disputes") be deleted.
In fact, I have no real problem with this clause, and I wouldn't mind seeing such a law enacted. But I am not motivated to write such a bill; and no-one else in our Ziu caucus seems to have, either. If we're not going to actually do it, we should delete it. If no-one actually volunteers to write a Corts Reform Bill (and I'm certainly not) we should trash it.
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Do I have a seconder or seconders?
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 10, 2018 1:47:48 GMT -6
Can I have some discussion, or seconders, on these?
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viteu
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Post by viteu on Jan 10, 2018 16:47:10 GMT -6
I second as it relates to 1 and 2. I oppose 3. I have submitted legislation that, to some degree, touches on this. But judicial reform is a priority. It cannot, however, be addressed until many of the current issues are resolved. That said, as I'm now returning some focus to the proposed org law, it would accomplished that. But once I get the draft finished, I'll be submitting an amendment to the current org law and new legislation in the even the proposed org law fails.
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 13, 2018 3:25:26 GMT -6
VOTING PHASE BEGINS HERE
Esteemed Free Democrats, in accordance with Constitution part V, you have three days aka 72 hours to vote. Please vote PËR (yes), CONTRÂ (no) or AUSTÁNEU (abstain) on each of the following.
1. That Party Platform 2 ("Privacy law for information used on private and public sites relating to Talossa") be deleted. 2. That Party Platform 4 ("Anti-discrimination law to prevent discrimination against individuals on the basis of whether they voted publicly or privately") be deleted. Both moved Miestrâ Schivâ , seconded viteu .
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Post by Dien on Jan 13, 2018 6:43:44 GMT -6
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Post by Dien on Jan 13, 2018 6:48:22 GMT -6
On 1, deleting plank 2, I vote Contrâ. Just because we haven't got around to writing a bill doesn't mean it should be deleted. On 2, deleting plank 4, I vote Contrâ. Not least because I support public voting, but I know that discrimination is a very real possibility.
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 13, 2018 8:13:02 GMT -6
Për on both
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 13, 2018 13:33:56 GMT -6
Për on both
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viteu
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Post by viteu on Jan 14, 2018 10:18:03 GMT -6
Për on both
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Post by C. Carlüs Xheraltescù on Jan 14, 2018 17:17:00 GMT -6
1. Contrâ 2. Për
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Post by Miestrâ Schivâ on Jan 16, 2018 4:27:11 GMT -6
Plank 2 is deleted by a majority of 3-2. Plank 4 is deleted by a majority of 4-1.
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gv
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Post by gv on Jan 16, 2018 13:47:45 GMT -6
Abstain on all.
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